Yet another way to divide Pushtoons
PASHTUN OPPOSES THE FENCING PLAN
Friday, January 05, 2007
Courtesy; SOUTH ASIA MEDIA NET www.southasi anmedia.net/ index_story. cfm?id=352481& category= Frontend& Country=AFGHANIS TAN
JALALABAD: Tribal elders and influential people on two sides of the Pak-Afghan border have warned they will take away any barriers installed on the joint border. Pakistan has recently announced it will fence the joint border and plant mines along the 2,500 kilometers long border to put an end to accusations by the Afghan government of letting Taliban militants to cross the border and conduct attacks in Afghanistan.
The elders have warned they would destroy the fence and take out the mines if Pakistan goes ahead with the fencing and mining plan.
Residents on both sides of the border believe that Pakistan want to stamp the Durand Line as an official border line between Afghanistan and Pakistan. This, they say, will further separate the one community of Pashtuns who have already been divided.
Maulvi Abdul Rahim, an elder and religious scholar in Koot frontier district of Nangrahar considers Pakistans action a drama, saying that Pakistan want to trick the world with this action.
He told Pajhwok Afghan News that Pashtuns are not those cowards to let others do such things.
He added: "We have tight relations with Tera people of North Western Frontier Province (NWFP) of Pakistan and we visit homes of each others regularly as we are part of one community, but Pakistan wants to split this community."
Malik Katawar Khan, resident of Dor Baba district of Nangrahar says that the British and Russians, despite their serious efforts for separation of Pashtuns of the two sides, failed to fulfill their goal in the very past.
He said if Pakistan succeeds in the plan, Pashtuns will demine the region and will destroy the fence.
Katawar Khan told this Pajhwok Afghan News: "Pashtuns now know that they must be united or will be demolished from the world map."
Malik Azizullah Shinwari, a tribal elder of Shinwari district says that Pakistani President Pervez Musharaf wants to catch Pashtuns of his side and separate them from the Afghanistan' s side by all tricks he know.
He told Pajhwok Afghan News the current war in Afghanistan and operation in tribal areas of Pakistan are launched to demolish Pashtuns.
"Mining and fencing the border is a Punjabi conspiracy, and we are sure it will fail," said Shinwari.
He said that they have contacted the tribal elders of the other side of the border and agreed that they will never let Pakistan to mine and fence the border.
He threatened if Pakistan enforces its decision their tribe will again strike as they did in British colony.
Rasul Mohammad Tanai, an elder of Tanai tribe in Khost province, considers this action of Pakistan as a game and says that Pakistan wants to impose and give official stamp to the Durand line. He said that Pashtuns have already been split even two village and two families were split.
Ramazan Kuchi, a nomad from Alisher frontier district, said that even if the Afghan government accepted the Pakistan's suggestion, the local community would never accept.
"If Pakistan truly enforces their decision the regional people will strike and will even destroy the present line," he said.
Masoum Jan a tribal leader of Aryub district of Paktia province said that Pakistan will never succeed in its separation plan. He said the Pakistani government should ban the terrorist sources inside Pakistan instead of mining and fencing the border.
Hamyaon Chamkani, a tribal leader in Chamkani district, said that if Pakistan enforces its plans, it will further inflame the existing anger and hatred of Afghans towards Pakistan.
Allahnoor Noorzai, a tribal leader in Arghistan district of Kandahar province, said Pakistan want to distract international by such actions.
He said that Pakistan is under pressure by the international community to ban the terror training center so they would distract the internationals by fencing and mining the border.
Similarly on the other side of the border, tribal residents oppose the mining and fencing plan of Pakistani government and said that they will never let their government do so.
Malik Akbar Khan, a resident of Kurram Agency's Parachinar area told Pajhwok this news agency through telephone that the tribal leaders have already convened a meeting on this issue and decided not to let the government enforce its plan.
He added that they will consult with other tribal elders and then will start serious negotiation with the government on the issue.
Malik Hamid Hussien a Shia tribal elder in Parachinar considers such action of Pakistan impossible and said that this is the land of Pashtun and without their choice no one can take any action.
Also, Haji Gul Khan Achakzai, a tribal elder in Baluchistan state of Pakistan rejects Pakistan plan on mining and fencing the border.
He said: "We do not accept the present border line that split Pashtuns into two parts and we know that the areas we reside on both sides of the border belong only to Pashtuns and the Pakistani government can not claim its ownership."
A Baloch tribal elder in Helmand province of Afghanistan, Haji Mawla Bakhsh, condemned the fencing and mining plan of the Pakistani government as an action aimed at occupation of lands of Pashtuns.
Friday, January 05, 2007
Courtesy; SOUTH ASIA MEDIA NET www.southasi anmedia.net/ index_story. cfm?id=352481& category= Frontend& Country=AFGHANIS TAN
JALALABAD: Tribal elders and influential people on two sides of the Pak-Afghan border have warned they will take away any barriers installed on the joint border. Pakistan has recently announced it will fence the joint border and plant mines along the 2,500 kilometers long border to put an end to accusations by the Afghan government of letting Taliban militants to cross the border and conduct attacks in Afghanistan.
The elders have warned they would destroy the fence and take out the mines if Pakistan goes ahead with the fencing and mining plan.
Residents on both sides of the border believe that Pakistan want to stamp the Durand Line as an official border line between Afghanistan and Pakistan. This, they say, will further separate the one community of Pashtuns who have already been divided.
Maulvi Abdul Rahim, an elder and religious scholar in Koot frontier district of Nangrahar considers Pakistans action a drama, saying that Pakistan want to trick the world with this action.
He told Pajhwok Afghan News that Pashtuns are not those cowards to let others do such things.
He added: "We have tight relations with Tera people of North Western Frontier Province (NWFP) of Pakistan and we visit homes of each others regularly as we are part of one community, but Pakistan wants to split this community."
Malik Katawar Khan, resident of Dor Baba district of Nangrahar says that the British and Russians, despite their serious efforts for separation of Pashtuns of the two sides, failed to fulfill their goal in the very past.
He said if Pakistan succeeds in the plan, Pashtuns will demine the region and will destroy the fence.
Katawar Khan told this Pajhwok Afghan News: "Pashtuns now know that they must be united or will be demolished from the world map."
Malik Azizullah Shinwari, a tribal elder of Shinwari district says that Pakistani President Pervez Musharaf wants to catch Pashtuns of his side and separate them from the Afghanistan' s side by all tricks he know.
He told Pajhwok Afghan News the current war in Afghanistan and operation in tribal areas of Pakistan are launched to demolish Pashtuns.
"Mining and fencing the border is a Punjabi conspiracy, and we are sure it will fail," said Shinwari.
He said that they have contacted the tribal elders of the other side of the border and agreed that they will never let Pakistan to mine and fence the border.
He threatened if Pakistan enforces its decision their tribe will again strike as they did in British colony.
Rasul Mohammad Tanai, an elder of Tanai tribe in Khost province, considers this action of Pakistan as a game and says that Pakistan wants to impose and give official stamp to the Durand line. He said that Pashtuns have already been split even two village and two families were split.
Ramazan Kuchi, a nomad from Alisher frontier district, said that even if the Afghan government accepted the Pakistan's suggestion, the local community would never accept.
"If Pakistan truly enforces their decision the regional people will strike and will even destroy the present line," he said.
Masoum Jan a tribal leader of Aryub district of Paktia province said that Pakistan will never succeed in its separation plan. He said the Pakistani government should ban the terrorist sources inside Pakistan instead of mining and fencing the border.
Hamyaon Chamkani, a tribal leader in Chamkani district, said that if Pakistan enforces its plans, it will further inflame the existing anger and hatred of Afghans towards Pakistan.
Allahnoor Noorzai, a tribal leader in Arghistan district of Kandahar province, said Pakistan want to distract international by such actions.
He said that Pakistan is under pressure by the international community to ban the terror training center so they would distract the internationals by fencing and mining the border.
Similarly on the other side of the border, tribal residents oppose the mining and fencing plan of Pakistani government and said that they will never let their government do so.
Malik Akbar Khan, a resident of Kurram Agency's Parachinar area told Pajhwok this news agency through telephone that the tribal leaders have already convened a meeting on this issue and decided not to let the government enforce its plan.
He added that they will consult with other tribal elders and then will start serious negotiation with the government on the issue.
Malik Hamid Hussien a Shia tribal elder in Parachinar considers such action of Pakistan impossible and said that this is the land of Pashtun and without their choice no one can take any action.
Also, Haji Gul Khan Achakzai, a tribal elder in Baluchistan state of Pakistan rejects Pakistan plan on mining and fencing the border.
He said: "We do not accept the present border line that split Pashtuns into two parts and we know that the areas we reside on both sides of the border belong only to Pashtuns and the Pakistani government can not claim its ownership."
A Baloch tribal elder in Helmand province of Afghanistan, Haji Mawla Bakhsh, condemned the fencing and mining plan of the Pakistani government as an action aimed at occupation of lands of Pashtuns.



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After the announcement by the Pakistan government late last month to go for the fencing and mining of the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan, Pakistan seems to be adamant and has reiterated to start the project within weeks. The decision to fence the Pak-Afghan border, according to Pakistani officials, is the last resort to deflect the vitriolic criticism from Afghanistan, NATO, the US and Western countries, for not doing enough to stop cross-border infiltration of Taliban insurgents from its soil into Afghanistan.
However, the Afghan government has rejected the fencing and mining of the border. There is also strong opposition from important political groups and stakeholders on the Pakistan side of the Durand Line, including the Pakhtoon nationalist parties, the ANP, the PKMAP, the Jamaat-e-Islami and tribesmen's organizations, like the Tanzeem-e-Ittehad- e-Qabail.
As far as the fencing of the 2,450 kilometre Durand Line is concerned, it is almost an impossible task to fence the whole of it. Dr. Azmat Hayat, Director Area Study Centre for Afghanistan, CARs and China, University of Peshawar, who has written a book on the Durand Line, said, "The fencing of the whole Durand Line is not possible but a major part of it can be fenced." However, he said that it would be a multi-billion dollar project.
As the fencing of the entire border is not possible, therefore the fencing and mining would be selectively done. But if this is the case, then fences would not serve the purpose for which ithey are being erected. Because the main purpose of erecting the barriers on the Durand Line is to check the inflow and outflow of Taliban insurgents. Selective fencing means that these militant-insurgents will take the routes that are not fenced. Keeping in view the vigorous militant training of Al-Qaeda and Taliban militants, it will not be difficult for them to continue their cross-border activities.
In fact, the fencing of the Durand Line would have been a good idea had it been carried out at the time of the Soviet presence in Afghanistan, which had resulted in adverse developments on our side of the Durand Line, be it extremism or Kalashnikov culture. Obviously, due to perceived strategic interests of the country, including achieving strategic depth through a friendly Afghan hinterland, the idea never occurred to the Pakistani decision-makers then.
This indicates that Pakistan's policies towards other countries are not satisfactorily formulated, keeping in view the interest of the people, but to appease a superpower. Now, again, we have to make our policy under duress after being pressurized by countries, like Afghanistan. As happened in the past, such policies are bound to fail.
Whether the Pakistan or Afghanistan government publicly admits it or not, the problem between Afghanistan and Pakistan is not limited to Taliban infiltration. The Taliban may be an immediate cause of the strained relationship between the two countries, but the roots of the mistrust lie in history.
The fact of the matter is that behind the Pakistani decision to fence the border and Afghanistan' s opposition to it, lie the disputed nature of the Durand Line. Pakistan's official stance on the issue is that it is an established border while Afghanistan has never recognized it; and since the hundred years of the Durand Agreement concluded in 1993, therefore, it thinks it has the legal right of reclaiming the Pashtoon areas of Pakistan. Even the Taliban regime in Afghanistan refused to renounce that stance over the Durand Line issue when asked by the Pakistani government.
However, for the time being, it is very difficult to appease Hamid Karzai. During discussions with several journalists who recently visited Kabul with Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz, the Afghan President's tone was very harsh. One of the journalists told this scribe that during the joint press conference with Shaukat Aziz, Karzai pointed towards Pakhtoon journalists from Pakistan and said in Pashto that they should tell their government that Afghanistan could no more tolerate Pakistani intelligence agencies? interference in Afghanistan.
On the other hand, Afghanistan' s internal problems seem to be increasing after Mullah Omar's announcement that he would not budge from militancy and oppose foreign troops tooth and nail. In what is said to be the first interview after 9/11, to a Pakhtoon journalist of Pakistan, by the Taliban leader, Mullah Omar said that not only would the struggle of the Taliban continue till the withdrawal or ouster of all foreign troops from Afghanistan, but also to the time when all the institutions established by the Western countries were destroyed.
This is a clear allusion to the Constitution, parliament and the first elected government of Afghanistan. This is simply nonsensical, because no one can deny the importance of such institutions in a war-ravaged country. It is only the manifestation of the frustration of the Taliban and the feeling that in such a dispensation, they may never come again into power even if foreign troops withdraw.
Diametrically opposite to President Musharraf's contention that the Taliban movement has turned into a Pakhtoon nationalist movement, Mullah Omar retorted that their struggle had never been waged on ethnic or sectarian lines and they enjoyed the support of all Muslims of the region. The idea of the Taliban movement being a Pakhtoon nationalist movement does not seem to be true, since neither Mullah Omar nor any Taliban leader has opposed the idea of fencing the Pak-Afghan border
Niazi are a tribe mainly from Mianwali. They speak saraiki but call themselves pushtuns and are actually stricter observant of pushtunwali then some modern pushtuns. Niazi is actually derived from Niazai (like Yousafzai etc). Imran Khan and Attalluh Khan Issakhelvi (singer) call themselves Pushtuns inspite of the fact that the speak Saraiki. Late Nawab of Kalabagh was said to be the strictest governor Punjab has had and he was cheif of Naizi clan. Mianwali was actually part of Pukhtunkhua but was merged into Punjab during Ayub Khan's time.
Toopaq zama qanoon day
Musharraf da khar bachay day
Who are Niazi and Tanoli or Tanawlies?
"Tanawlis are our brothers and we should stop this process of loosing our brothers any more. Yesterday it was Niazi today these Tanawlies and tomorrow Yousafzai. "
I have friends how are of this family/tribe who say the are pashtuns....and i must say they definatly resemble pushtuns...just curious.
our "Enligthened Moderated" leader has come up with such a nice humane idea to "Mine the border".
What border ?
I personally think, there should be no border between Pak and Afghanistan, or for that matter, between the whole Islamic bloc countries..
All the afghan leaders seem to agree with each others :D