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attabara.. this is the last time im gonna respond to you so you dont have to respond back to me :)
you have a very good way of putting words into my mouth that i never said and a way of looking too deeply into things...
first, i didnt say it WAS the only.. i said it MAY BE the only way.. big difference...
second.. i never said the quran DOESNT have ayahs describing the rewards of jannah.. pls locate the scentence if you have.. because i certainly missed it...
third... i dont sell islam .. i live by it ... and what u said is an example of reading too much into it...
anyway, pls feel free to critisize me more and comment as much as you want.. but im done responding to you :)
atabarra... picture this.. someone who doesnt pray, only backbites, steals, cheats, etc all day .. he doesnt pray, doesnt go to the masjid, drinks.. does drugs, zina.. etc.. and sits on his a$$ doing nothing but watching television... then he watches this commercial that comes on ... this one commercial may be the ONLY way to convince him to start and change his life...
u say no one should use scare tactics to get ppl to change and yet the quran uses scare tactics to get ppl to change... all the surahs that desribe what the day of judgement is going to be like... telling us that backbiting is like eating the flesh of your muslim brother... committing zina can get u whooped 100 times or death if ur married...
these ARE scare tactics.. but there is wisdom from them... they are meant to scare us a little so that inshalah in our life time we will never commit these acts....
we noe that for a fact the convincing factor DOES work.. we see it everyday... when u watch tv commercials.. and there are two of the same prodcuts, u will choose one of them because u were convinced that it works better...
or how abt when u build a house.. and u want to noe how to insulate your walls.. you go shopping around until u are convinced that the product u buy is the right one!
now u must convince ME otherwise that what i said is not right :P
So atabarra, since you're so excited and keen once again on pointing out how everything is done wrong by Arabs and Muslims, can you please suggest a smarter way to convince the millions out there who may not pray, who backbite, who do all the wrong things and may need some convincing in one way or another?...because you obviously believe this way is inferior, so I'm interested to hear a solution from you (for change) instead of just shutting others down for their ideas.
Sorry, I was quiet for long enough, but couldn't resist to ask this one question. (as much as I know and am fully aware everything with you becomes like opening a can of worms ;))
atabbara,you got a point there and I agree with you.Eventhough sometimes it's good to remind.I'm hoping they don't make ppl eat flesh for real to realize how bad backbiting is.
But by the way, before some people get defensive so quickly, this is only a commercial that was portrayed on here, until you know for a fact there is no version of this commercial with men in it, don't jump to conclusions.
I say this because my brother lives in the middle east and I told him about this commercial, and he says he bets there is one for men because they generally make similar commercials with men and women equally to keep everyone happy.
It's actually interesting considering the actual hadith came about when it was men that talked badly about another of their brothers who was stoned to death due to committing adultery. This prompted the Prophet s.a.w. to say this hadith.
I agree with you completely but they could've added at least one guy or two or showed another men gathering who are doing the same thing.Unfortunately in the middle east they like to show the women as little minded,have nothing to do creatures.This way they can ligitimize men's superiority in everything.
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you have a very good way of putting words into my mouth that i never said and a way of looking too deeply into things...
first, i didnt say it WAS the only.. i said it MAY BE the only way.. big difference...
second.. i never said the quran DOESNT have ayahs describing the rewards of jannah.. pls locate the scentence if you have.. because i certainly missed it...
third... i dont sell islam .. i live by it ... and what u said is an example of reading too much into it...
anyway, pls feel free to critisize me more and comment as much as you want.. but im done responding to you :)
u say no one should use scare tactics to get ppl to change and yet the quran uses scare tactics to get ppl to change... all the surahs that desribe what the day of judgement is going to be like... telling us that backbiting is like eating the flesh of your muslim brother... committing zina can get u whooped 100 times or death if ur married...
these ARE scare tactics.. but there is wisdom from them... they are meant to scare us a little so that inshalah in our life time we will never commit these acts....
we noe that for a fact the convincing factor DOES work.. we see it everyday... when u watch tv commercials.. and there are two of the same prodcuts, u will choose one of them because u were convinced that it works better...
or how abt when u build a house.. and u want to noe how to insulate your walls.. you go shopping around until u are convinced that the product u buy is the right one!
now u must convince ME otherwise that what i said is not right :P
Sorry, I was quiet for long enough, but couldn't resist to ask this one question. (as much as I know and am fully aware everything with you becomes like opening a can of worms ;))
I say this because my brother lives in the middle east and I told him about this commercial, and he says he bets there is one for men because they generally make similar commercials with men and women equally to keep everyone happy.
im not sure if theyre saudi arabian because saudi arabia has this stupid mentality that women should be forced to veil and these girls werent ...
but anyway the point of the clip isnt to say that women backbite only... its just to bring attention to backbiting itself...
Saudi Arabian mentality