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Sorry ...!!
By Chiragh-e-Raah
Apologies ...
Easier said than done....once damage is done, very difficult to undo.
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Chiragh-e-Raah
(May 9, 2014 at 5:58pm)
loll ...spot on Admirer saab.
btw BW ...lol at butting in ..uff toaba....don't think like that ...glad you did contribute again, well worth the read etc :)
btw BW ...lol at butting in ..uff toaba....don't think like that ...glad you did contribute again, well worth the read etc :)
Admirer481
(May 9, 2014 at 5:55pm)
Its like ..... "ghalat-ul-aam" ... i.e., when an incorrect word, thing etc. becomes so common that people start thinking that this is the correct version .... sorry! I have to say its not :P
Chiragh-e-Raah
(May 9, 2014 at 5:45pm)
:) wow ...we are all having a civil, intellectual , philosophical etc yet fun discussion on here - been a long time ....
Chiragh-e-Raah
(May 9, 2014 at 5:42pm)
here it is :) :_
" 'We become so accustomed to disguising ourselves to others, that in the end we become disguised to ourselves'" which sums up quite nicely what you were saying Admirer saab about the web naqlees and their alledged souls and hearts, i think :)
" 'We become so accustomed to disguising ourselves to others, that in the end we become disguised to ourselves'" which sums up quite nicely what you were saying Admirer saab about the web naqlees and their alledged souls and hearts, i think :)
Chiragh-e-Raah
(May 9, 2014 at 5:39pm)
Asalamo - Alaikum Admirer saab :P i think it needs more than just aegean's cleansing loll. bottom line, web naqlees have just re--invented or disguised themselves to delude others but of course delude themselves too :P
reality , in my humble opinion, is they prefer to disguise themselves and run/hide from what their original and real soul and heart say and are....so adopt a 'new/different' persona with umm prototype soul , heart if u will....ultimately fake :)
reminds of a quote , let me just dig it out :)
reality , in my humble opinion, is they prefer to disguise themselves and run/hide from what their original and real soul and heart say and are....so adopt a 'new/different' persona with umm prototype soul , heart if u will....ultimately fake :)
reminds of a quote , let me just dig it out :)
Chiragh-e-Raah
(May 9, 2014 at 5:34pm)
so good BW and thanks for sharing. In a way it re-affirms a lot of my thoughts and writings i suppose :) i tend to refer to Neeyut and how allah(swt) knows /sees all.....and it is allah(swt) who truly knows what is in anyone's heart etc. so we really can't and shouldnt judge as we do not truly know anothers neeyut and heart etc. Also, i think i have referred to before about how hollow rituals /actions are meaningless.
This email of yours goes further in that it refers to how people hide from their true selves or what is really in their hearts ie from allah(swt) - strange dichotomy for me, as it flies in the face of Allah(swt) knowing etc all...
This email of yours goes further in that it refers to how people hide from their true selves or what is really in their hearts ie from allah(swt) - strange dichotomy for me, as it flies in the face of Allah(swt) knowing etc all...
Admirer481
(May 9, 2014 at 4:27pm)
Chiragh ... the web naqlees have their own soul and heart ... and what they here consoles them as this is what to them is their soul and heart! ... which is original to them ... and its not going anywhere ...... its like assimilation in their blood so they do not even know if its not their real (asslee) soul and heart ... as it was when we were born .... pure and clean! .... sorry! the prototyping over time has made them to have a soul and heart which has become the faking original! ... and they seem to have either compromised with this without even realising that this is what they shouldn't be and ......... Sorry! this needs Aegeans' cleansing!
Black-Widow
(May 9, 2014 at 2:42pm)
I gonna butt in! Chiragh, check out what my sister emailed me today.. i loved it and thought you might appreciate the read as well :) kinda not related to the aslee and naklee topic but its related to the heart and soul (mayyy be applicable to the naklee's as i find that they are the unhappy ones =P)
"Allah knows all that is in your heart, and yet despite us knowing this logically, many people emotionally "hide" from Allah. They don't tell Him what they really feel and really think, especially when the thoughts re considered "wrong."
And sometimes, you find someone going through a decade of their life, trying to hide and bury their thoughts and feelings about Allah, and this hiding manifests itself in greater sins and harm to their iman. At the end of the decade, despite doing so many good things that a "proper Muslim" would do - that same hidden secret haunts them. You know how people say you are as sick as your secrets? Perhaps we can say your iman is as strong as your secrets, and no matter how much outward actions of 'ibadah you do - they are all built upon the foundation of truth in your heart. If you are struggling with a thought or feeling - just tell Allah, open your heart to Him. He already knows...
You can say, "Ya Rabee...I don't want to feel this way, but I feel angry with you, and I don't know how to heal this feeling..."
You can say "Ya Allah, I feel as if you do not love me because my du'a isn't answered, even though I know logically this isn't how it works, emotionally and spiritually I am stuck feeling despair..."
Acknowledge what is ALREADY in your heart, and ask Allah for help, healing, guidance, and His infinite love and mercy, and be open to what heals you.
But stop trying to run from Allah, or hide from Allah - for the only one you hurt in the end is you.
Truth and vulnerability must begin first in your relationship with Allah, subhanahu wa ta'ala, and He is a Most Merciful Lord!"
"Allah knows all that is in your heart, and yet despite us knowing this logically, many people emotionally "hide" from Allah. They don't tell Him what they really feel and really think, especially when the thoughts re considered "wrong."
And sometimes, you find someone going through a decade of their life, trying to hide and bury their thoughts and feelings about Allah, and this hiding manifests itself in greater sins and harm to their iman. At the end of the decade, despite doing so many good things that a "proper Muslim" would do - that same hidden secret haunts them. You know how people say you are as sick as your secrets? Perhaps we can say your iman is as strong as your secrets, and no matter how much outward actions of 'ibadah you do - they are all built upon the foundation of truth in your heart. If you are struggling with a thought or feeling - just tell Allah, open your heart to Him. He already knows...
You can say, "Ya Rabee...I don't want to feel this way, but I feel angry with you, and I don't know how to heal this feeling..."
You can say "Ya Allah, I feel as if you do not love me because my du'a isn't answered, even though I know logically this isn't how it works, emotionally and spiritually I am stuck feeling despair..."
Acknowledge what is ALREADY in your heart, and ask Allah for help, healing, guidance, and His infinite love and mercy, and be open to what heals you.
But stop trying to run from Allah, or hide from Allah - for the only one you hurt in the end is you.
Truth and vulnerability must begin first in your relationship with Allah, subhanahu wa ta'ala, and He is a Most Merciful Lord!"
Chiragh-e-Raah
(May 9, 2014 at 4:14am)
well admirer saab.....yes i have noticed the naqlees on the web but on the contrary it has confirmed that they do not possess heart or soul - even if they do by some miracle ie prototype :P, it is definitely compromised , poor quality etc. So ...sorry :P to say, my point of asslee v naqlee stands - ofc each person's choice to go with naqlee because superficiality (short term gain *cough cough*) ie fakes look better, are preferred :)
Admirer481
(May 8, 2014 at 5:54pm)
The naqlees do have their souls and hearts ..... haven't you noticed this on this web? ..... Sorry! .... this happens to be prototype of Asslee:P
Chiragh-e-Raah
(May 8, 2014 at 5:47pm)
wrong...clones/fakes do not have heart or soul loll mugur if one wants to imagine they do then ie delude themselves then so beit. sorry :P but that is the way it is. you are good at complicating matters anyway, so no need to do peekee and naqlee sorry :P
Admirer481
(May 8, 2014 at 5:39pm)
The fakes have their own heart and soul which is original to them! ..... and then it becomes Asslee .... and supercedes the so called orginal Asslee:P .... Sorry! ... its becoming more complicated now :P
Chiragh-e-Raah
(May 8, 2014 at 5:29pm)
fake may look better....and if you like absolutely no heart/soul then is personal preference :) lol @ ur sorry :P
Admirer481
(May 8, 2014 at 5:24pm)
Chiragh: Well, these days the fake looks better than the original! .... and there heart and soul are virtually non-existing! .... Sorry! I happen to fall for the naqlee :P
Chiragh-e-Raah
(May 8, 2014 at 5:05am)
acha !! didn't know that .. :) khair, the point (of this journal and comments) still stand though albeit a bit broken or shaken :P
Samuraii
(May 8, 2014 at 2:13am)
But do you know a Canadian at end of every sentence says "sorry" ...for no reason...